You must log in or register to reply here. Castrol Transmax Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle ATF. Valvoline MaxLife is 100% Full Synthetic ATF- & Will work just fine, instead of Toyota 'not synthetic' WS As long as you don't fall into the "synthetic is always better" trap. Castrol mentioned JWS 3324 to me first, I did not volunteer any spec # at all to Castrol, asked them to name the OEM certification they have for the product and who provided the OEM certification. Replaced with Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic ATF. Can't beat having … How about Toyota uses a quality synthetic fluid that doesn't darken easily like other OE fluids and that actually promotes excellent shift quality like non-OE fluids do and folks would use OEM fluid instead. Realistically, we're really all talking anecdotes anyways, unless you show me pre- and post- UOAs of full transmission lifetimes using each different fluid. Older 4 speed AW and JATCO transmissions get the blue bottle MaxLife, since they spec Type IV/Nissanmatic D, and anecdotally shifted better in my fleet. It's life in the past several years have been severe duty, high load, crazy off road conditions. Your approach to drop the pan, clean up that area, THEN do the flush seems very logical. How much ATF did you end up using? Also added a Magnefine inline ATF filter. You know, I got so tired of this discussion I dropped the pan on my Tundra's A760, cleaned it out, put in a new filter, and filled it back up with MaxLife red bottle in June @80k miles. JavaScript is disabled. I did check Valvoline Maxlife ATF but the specs indicate viscosity is outside the specs of the Toyota WS. A drain and fill can be acceptable if you do it frequently with shorter service intervals. You are using an out of date browser. Messages 13,195 Location Maricopa Arizona. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This topic has come up some much that we are all blue in the face. Castrol Transmax Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid is OEM certified by Aisin as meeting JWS 3324 specification. Help: Toyota WS ATF or Maxlife ATF. I mean if Castrol, SOPUS and P66 got their "universal" ATFs approved by Ford and GM for Dexron VI and Mercon V/LV(and ULV eventually), it shouldn't be too hard for them to pass Toyota or JASO testing. RAV4.3 Third Generation (2006-2012 Models), http://www.aftonchemical.com/Insight/KnowledgeCtr/Research_Trends/Documents/ATFspreads.pdf, https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...e-get-it-out-of-your-transmission-now.331521/, http://content.valvoline.com/pdf/maxlife_atf.pdf, https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=51&pcid=7, https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g3110.pdf, http://www.rav4world.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=836557, https://r56hs.com/2016/02/15/diaqueen-sae90-gear-oil-mz320345-oil-test/, https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=115&pcid=7, http://www.kd5byb.net/Tundra/ATF WS MSDS1.pdf, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, rav4world.com is an independent Toyota enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. I think found the MSDS for WS- to compare with. Older 4 speed AW and JATCO transmissions get the blue bottle MaxLife, since they spec Type IV/Nissanmatic D, and anecdotally shifted better in my fleet. Been reading way too many forum posts on Toyota WS ATF Fluid versus the Valvoline Maxlife ATF fluid. Just talked to the rep it good for our vans that us WS ATF can Valvoline MAX Life ATF been aproved by Toyota!! :) also it synthetic fluid. Well done! Maxlife in 2012 Corolla, shifts the same as on WS. It's good stuff. You are free to call Castrol yourself like I did, and you can get the same answer I did. Some really good photo work there, thanks for posting! MaxLife is synthetic providing some advantage regarding higher operating temperature. No problems? Everyone still happy with their Maxlife in their WS application? I called them and they assured me it is compatable with T-lV and WS fluid. JavaScript is disabled. Go. Plenty of Subaru owners found out the hard way. Toyota WS ATF vs Valvoline MaxLife V8 2004: natevans65: 4th Gen T4Rs: 34: 08-25-2019 10:16 PM: Valvoline MaxLife 773775 Dex/Merc or Castrol 03521 Transmax Import Multi-Vehicle ATF: Recoil Rob: 3rd gen T4Rs: 18: 12-30-2014 06:31 AM: Valvoline MaxLife: iaonbb: 4th Gen T4Rs: 4: 06-02-2005 09:27 AM » Popular Tags: 3rd 4runner 4th 4wd 5th air area back battery black brake … I'm actually flushing the corolla with red line soon, so i may chime in with that too. Blake the Castrol has not been updated since 2013. Im gonna do a drain/pan drop and Im guessing i will get close to a gallon out. Unfortunately, it took three orders to get a case of it that was not leaking or damaged. MaxLife™ Multi-Vehicle ATF : Product Catalog - Valvoline… So far the transmission whine noise is quieter than before. TBH, I shyed away from MaxLife in my parent's Lexus LS430 and my Prius - WS was cheaper for me(it helps to know someone at the dealership) but I'll probably use it next spill and fill in the LS but probably not in the Prius - there is ATF being pumped through the transaxle despite it being splash-lubricated. How's it feel since you replaced all the ATF? ….you swear on the Holy bible that AISIN T-IV is just rebadged MOBIL JWS 3309. Do those other vehicles spec the WS fluid? Valvoline vs. Amsoil have fans of each debating which of their two uncertified ATFs is 'safe' for a Toyota WS application. I just got off the phone with Castrol support. So far the transmission whine noise is quieter than before. Well I researched it and came to the conclusion that WS flashpoint is poor and does not tolerate heat. It is formulated with premium base stocks, unique seal conditioners, long- life friction modifiers, special anti-wear additives, and shear stable viscosity modifiers, among other performance packages. 1 … Go to page. So there is a OEM certified, aftermarket transmission fluid availabe for Toyotas that specify type WS transmission fluid. Interesting article on how Multi-vehicle ATF products "aren't". The same spec that sold in bottles as Toyota Brand WS. Go. I'm at about 85% Maxlife now works great for me. Valvoline™ MaxLife™ Multi-Vehicle ATF is a full synthetic formulation with advanced additives to prevent the major causes of transmission breakdown and help extend transmission life. Good pics kyoo! Jump to Latest Follow 41 - 60 of 67 Posts. The link to Arts? Post Reply. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Discuss towing, modifications, and more. '11 Toyota Rav4 3.5 V6 Limited AWD - Blizzard Pearl. So far it feels no different from the Toyota WS that was already in there. I tend to think that it is closer to 5.8. Loading... Unsubscribe from repairvehicle? They said it is indeed certified by Aisin, hence Toyota. dave1251. Toyota WS Volvo 1161521, 1161540, STD 1273.41, 97340 VW TL52162, LT71141 ZF TE -ML 14B, 16L, 17C ZF Lifeguardfluid 8 *Please note that legislation in California prohibits Valvoline from recommending MaxLife™ ATF in certain applications where the viscometrics of MaxLife™ ATF do not match those of the official OEM specification. I want to get my second drain and refill in this fall. Been a little over 15k miles since I've done the switch. I know, I know. Toyota WS compatible and synthetic. The problem is that I do not know exactly what is already in the car, but I suspect that it is Toyota WS. I was thinking of using Vavoline MAX LIFE ATF. I have 100,000 miles on WS and 100,000 miles on maxlife. no problems. Do not do a full flush! to ashtony's general point, I'm not too crazy about Valvoline maxlife and its rating for both Toyota's regular ATF and WS. They would not say if Toyota WS … Developed to help prevent leaks, maximize transmission performance, reduce transmission wear, and maintain smooth shifting longer than conventional fluids. Rav 4 World is the internet's largest Toyota Rav4 SUV and EV online forum community. The respective vehicle manufacturers have neither evaluated nor endorsed MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF in these applications." Glad I did that flush since this must have been the first fluid change judging from the color. Mixing Maxlife ATF with Toyota WS? Can't beat having clean ATF that comes with a flush using the return line. I use them on my other vehicles with factory WS filled A750F transmission. Valvoline MaxLife™ ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid) is the first fluid of its kind that is specifically formulated for higher mileage automatic transmissions. The respective vehicle manufacturers have neither evaluated nor endorsed MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF in these applications. It is Castrol, "it should be noted that MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF is not an OEM licensed product. One size fits all typically doesn't work out well, and it's not just about viscosity - lot of additives coming into play etc. Hmmm, if I wanted to keep tranny whining at bay, I'd be thinking of swapping out the AT fluid. Oh, just realized, yours is a V6, which would probably take a bit more. Content on rav4world.com is generated by its users. Poll: what'd you use in your WS-spec'd AT? Joined: Jan 3, 2009 Member: #12191 Messages: 60 Gender: Male First Name: David Flagstaff, AZ Vehicle: '09 TRD Off-Road DC Custom Perforated Stainless Satoshi Grill, 3" Toytech … I think it did take a few miles to "break in"/permeate the trans, but working very well since. One particular formulation kept coming up as I read about what others used – Valvoline Max Life ATF: Note in the next photo you can see that Valvoline says this can replace Toyota T-IV as well – it’s not just guys on the Internet. So there is a OEM certified, aftermarket transmission fluid availabe for Toyotas that specify type WS transmission fluid. Certified by Aisin the transmission manufacturer of Toyota vehicles. So Penrite it is. Im gonna switch over in my 4runner today. Towed, hauled, abused it since. That should be sufficient? Hi kyoo, it's been ~6 months since you've done the tranny flush etc., how's it going these day? Some interesting metal on the magnet. Nov 16, 2019 #141 Originally Posted by N Heat. See there is a difference, the Castrol Transmax is indeed OEM certified and the Valvoline product is not. Its never been done and has130k. That one is the thicker version though. According to Wiki(not 100% reliable) some Suzuki Grand Vitaras had an Aisin tranny that was AKA the Toyota A750F, which is in my 4runner. i'll probably go 30k on it at least, if not 50k+. Developed to help prevent leaks, maximize transmission performance, reduce transmission wear, and maintain smooth shifting longer than conventional fluids. I have seen 5.8 and 7.2. Since the last owner had done pan drop service in 2011, I decided only do drain and refill. MaxLife ™ Multi-Vehicle ATF is a full synthetic formulation with advanced additives to prevent the major causes of transmission breakdown and help extend transmission life. Amsoil vs Mobil 1 vs motorcraft vs WS ATF Valvoline maxlife repairvehicle. The benefit of doing this is a longer transmission life. Maxlife ATF for Toyota WS. ", Aisin TB-50LS — 5-speed longitudinal (Suzuki Grand Vitara 3.2 V6 5-door, Isuzu MU-X 2.5), also known as Toyota A750F. Toyota really should have a certification program like Mopar, GM and Ford have for their ATFs. Thus my question is whether I can add a compatible ATF like Valvoline MaxLife through a drain and refill, or if I need a full flush to replace the fluid? The reason I used a 'clear' plastic hose is because when you start the car, you can see when the oil starts turning red, when being pumped out of the torque converter. hey hey! I've done four drain and fills. car shifts smoothly, zero issue, haven't really thought about it actually. Now that I am a proud owner of a 3rd Gen RAV4 I have to say finally someone here is paying attention to doing a transmission flush via return line (KYOO). What I won't do is wait 80k miles again though - "lifetime fill" is a "duration of warranty fill" or a short life. Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by dewriffic16, Jul 8, 2014. rav4world.com is not in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Company. I'm against a Jiffy Lube type of flush with the crud in the pan rolling through the system, but your approach elimintates that. Penrite ATF LV seems to be the only one that meets Toyota WS standards. Subscribe Subscribed Unsubscribe 12.9K. For the Prius, you do a drain/fill. I will say though I'd give it a week to get in all the nooks and crannies, as well as checking every day to make sure the fluid is topped off. I have always used the expensive Toyota trans fluid both T-lV and WS. Valvoline MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF is a full synthetic automatic transmission fluid combining superior base oils and unique seal conditioners, long-life friction modifiers, special anti-wear agents and shear-stable viscosity improvers. Valvoline Maxlife VS Toyota WS. With that said, I am still having some trouble here. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Everything seems to be working normally. Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site > Technical Forums > DIY / Maintenance / Service: Valvoline Maxlife ATF How far apart should drain and fills be? Thread starter Bandito440; Start date Aug 1, 2012; Prev. That is completely unlike Maxlife ATF that comes with the disclaimer: "it should be noted that MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF is not an OEM licensed product. I will see how it goes as I get more mileage. MaxLife also offers advantages as ATF, which is the more critical design application. That pumped fluid does drip on the 2 electric motors and I'm not sure if MaxLife is detrimental to the winding insulation. 6; 7; 8; First Prev 8 of 8 Go to page. Valvoline Maxlife ATF DIY / Maintenance / Service. However, Castrol Transmax Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid is OEM certified by Aisin as meeting JWS 3324 specificiation. I drove my car 100 miles after my first drain/fill and did it again. Toyota WS ATF is good stuff for those vehicles that require it. I've been using Valvoline Maxlife in my 05 Tacoma. do dealers still sell T-IV? The data is out there, it would be nice to see some independent information from Blackstone. However, Castrol Transmax Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid is OEM certified by Aisin as meeting JWS 3324 specificiation. Valvoline has conducted extensive in-house testing, independent lab testing, and field-testing to … So... Toyota WS and Aisin WS are not the same. That is OEM cerfification just like the example you gave of Aisin's own JWS 3324 product. I was thinking Toyota Type T-IV but meant Toyota WS, which is what the manual calls for. I know Aisin makes a lot of trannies for alot of vehicles an addition to Toyota. Cancel Unsubscribe. MaxLife will be certainly be a cheaper alternative than WS. Jul 8, 2014 at 8:11 AM #1 #1. dewriffic16 [OP] Well-Known Member. MaxLife Multi-VehicleATF is suitable for use in a broad range of ATF applications including most Ford, GM, Toyota & Honda models as well as Dex/Merc, Mercon LV and many more applications. Developed to help prevent leaks, maximize transmission performance, reduce transmission wear, and maintain smooth shifting longer than conventional fluids. Going to try Amsoil ATF next time around once I hit 100k miles, which is a long while away, but I wouldn't mind sticking with the Maxlife. Drives fine. #25 Leadfoot J. McCoalroller, Apr 24, 2019 I did a flush using the return line on the weekend along with replacing the filter inside the pan. Valvoline™ MaxLife™ Multi-Vehicle ATF is a full-synthetic formulation with advanced additives to prevent the major causes of transmission breakdown and help extend transmission life. No sale at Repco, Supercheap or Autobarn now. Glad I did that flush since this must have been the first fluid change judging from the color. Valvoline ATF Recommended for ... MaxLife ATF, Transmission 09G T-IV Toyota WS Transmission 02E SLF Part number G-052-182-A2 Available from dealer Transmission 09D in Q7 (2007-10 with 4.2L), 0AT (2011 with 3.6L) T-IV Part number G-055-025-A2 MaxLife ATF, Import MV ATF Transmission 09E(2004-2005), 09E (2006-09 with 8 cylinder engine) SLF Part number G-055-005-A2 Transmission … Learn about ATF from the first 2-Speed Toyoglide in 1959 to the latest AGA0E 10-Speed transmission in 2017. its sunday here. curious on the horror stories - I'd have to imagine they didn't do something right if something's not working. Developed to help prevent leaks, maximize transmission performance, reduce transmission wear, and maintain smooth shifting longer than conventional fluids. I will see how it goes as I get more mileage. Not 'recommended' certified, as in Castrol paid the money got the product tested and have a certification by Aisin. It also says certified right on the bottle of the product. project farm like test for Maxlife vs toyota WS. In their product info sheet they state that it WILL NOT void vechele warranty and if you or your customer have any transmission issues while using it to please contact them. The first order from 'Toyota of North Miami Parts' was completely beat to hell, the Toyota box was wrapped in plastic to keep it together and the spouts were folded into the containers and many of them were leaking. Transmission 09G T-IV Toyota WS MaxLife ATF Trasmission 02E SLF Part number G-052-182-A2 Transmission 09L, 09E(2004-2005), 09E (2006 with 8 cylinder engine) SLF Part number G-055-005-A2 MaxLife ATF Transmission 09E (2006 with 12 cylinder engine) SLF Part number G-055-162-A6 Others AE MaxLife ATF 1995 Cabriolet 90 with 097 transmission AF2 DEXRON II MaxLife ATF, MERCON … Many Toyota owners have reported good results when substituting MaxLife for WS in their transmissions. There is a gray area for Japanese ATF, a Toyota engineer said in a presentation at JASO that genuine parts ATF is best but a "superior-type ATF" is suitable and that spec is JASO M315 which all the "universals" are self-certified by the add pack suppliers and blenders to meet. The Amsoil all good? I recommend doing a drain/fill at least twice to thoroughly get rid of the old fluid. Yikes! I had only done ATF drain and fill a month ago on my 2000 sienna (168k miles), I bought the fluid from toyota dealer. Valvoline MaxLife Multi-Vehicle ATF is a full synthetic formulation with advanced additives to prevent the major causes of transmission breakdown and help extend transmission life. No evidence of failure, just a claim that they *have* found it "black" at 30k and recommend a 15k service interval. Valvoline vs. Amsoil have fans of each debating which of their two uncertified ATFs is 'safe' for a Toyota WS application. Everything seems to be working normally. 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